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This will only work between these two figures, possibly between their male counterparts in the future if there is a G8 Male.  It will not work between any previous figures, or between these and previous figures.

THIS ALSO WORKS ON HAIR.  HAIR AND CLOTHES ARE NOT DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THEY ARE RIGGED.  EVERYWHERE THAT I SAY CLOTHING YOU CAN ALSO TAKE THAT TO MEAN HAIR EXCEPT THAT YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO WORRY ABOUT POSING THE ARMS AND LEGS, JUST CHANGING THE SCENE IDENTIFICATION.

Here's the YouTube video.


For this tutorial you need:

Genesis 3 Female from Daz3d.com.
Genesis 8 Female from Daz3d.com.
An item of clothing for one of them that you want to convert to the other one.
Here's a Genesis 3 Pose for Genesis 8, to save time. You can also make your own.

Scene Tab and Parameters Tab in Daz Studio 4.9.  If you lack a tab, you can add it using Window--Panes (Tabs) and clicking the one that you need.

Genesis 3 to Genesis 8 Clothing

Load Genesis 8 into your scene.

Apply the G3 pose for G8 to Genesis 8.

Deselect Genesis 8 by clicking elsewhere in the scene.

Load your clothing item from the library.  It is important that G8 is not selected because we're not using AutoFit.

Click on the clothing item in Scene Tab.

Also in Scene Tab, find the small button at the top right of the tab. Click on it and choose Edit--Scene Identification.

Click on the "..." to the right of "Preferred Base."

A big list pops up.  Find Genesis 8 and Female under that.  Click Accept.  Then click Accept again.

In the Scene tab, Left-click on Genesis 8 Female.  Hold down shift and left-click on your clothing item, so both are selected, but Genesis 8 is selected FIRST.  The order matters.

Now click the little button on the top right of Scene Tab again.

Choose Edit--Rigging--Transfer Rigging (Figure Space).

Now you can fit the clothing item to Genesis 8 and it should work!  Notice how we didn't distort the geometry at all?  The base FBMs are also identical, so they should still work properly.  The JCMs are not completely identical in my testing, but they're close.  If you save the item to the library again (File--Save As--Support Asset--Figure/Prop Assets) make sure you give it a new name so that it doesn't overwrite the original.


Genesis 3 to Genesis 8 High-Heeled Shoes

Load Genesis 8 Female into your scene.

As before, apply the Genesis 3 Female pose for Genesis 8 Female.

Make sure Genesis 8 is not selected.

Load your high-heeled shoes into the scene.  I'm using the Austrani boots in the video.

If they came with a foot pose, you can usually just apply it directly to G8 at this point.  I did this with the Austrani boots.  I also changed the shin bends to -0.72 to minimized visible clipping, and you may need to fiddle with the shin/foot pose to do that too, since G8 has no heel bone.

Select the shoes or boots in the Scene Tab. 

Find the small button at the top right of the tab. Click on it and choose Edit--Scene Identification.

Click on the "..." to the right of "Preferred Base."

A big list pops up.  Find Genesis 8 and Female under that.  Click Accept.  Then click Accept again.

In the Scene tab, Left-click on Genesis 8 Female.  Hold down shift and left-click on your shoes, so both are selected, but Genesis 8 is selected FIRST.  The order matters.

Now click the little button on the top right of Scene Tab again.

Choose Edit--Rigging--Transfer Rigging (Figure Space).

Now you should be able to fit the boots to Genesis 8 Female and have them work fine. 


Adding a Push Modifier to Fix Clipping

This is something most clothing items don't include that can get rid of pesky clipping easily on many items.

Click on the clothing or shoes in the Scene Tab.

Click the little button at top right of the tab.

Choose Edit--Geometry--Apply Push Modifier.

The push modifier is usually applied at a very high value of 1.00, which tends to distort most clothing unacceptably.  You can find it in the Parameters Tab under General, where it is now called "Mesh Offset."  A value closer to 0.1 or 0.2 is often enough.


Reversing the Process (Genesis 8 Clothing to Genesis 3)

Obviously I don't have a lot of clothing with which to test this, so I had to use my own work-in-progress (haven't bought the bundle yet).  But when I did test it, the same process in reverse worked fine.  I didn't even include a pose because all you really need to do is set each of Genesis 3's Shoulder bends to 45 or -45 and each thigh's Side-Side to 6/-6.

Load Genesis 3 Female.

Pose as stated.  Deselect by clicking on anything else or the background.

Load a Genesis 8 Female clothing item into the scene WITHOUT Genesis 3 selected.

Click on the clothing item in the Scene Tab.

Also in Scene Tab, find the small button at the top right of the tab. Click on it and choose Edit--Scene Identification.

Click on the "..." to the right of "Preferred Base."

A big list pops up.  Find Genesis 3 and Female under that.  Click Accept.  Then click Accept again.

In the Scene tab, Left-click on Genesis 3 Female.  Hold down shift and left-click on your clothing item, so both are selected, but Genesis 8 is selected FIRST.  The order matters.

Now click the little button on the top right of Scene Tab again.

Choose Edit--Rigging--Transfer Rigging (Figure Space).

It's exactly the same with shoes, except that you need to also pose the feet to fit inside the shoes if they are high heels before you do the transfer of rigging.
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second-circle Featured By Owner 16 hours ago  Professional Digital Artist
Oh my gods. Bloody heels. They seem to be pretty inconsistent with fitting depending on who made them. Grrrr. Anyways - thanks - this has been really useful :) The clothes work beautifully :)
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abe02 Featured By Owner Edited 1 day ago
Thanks for the tutorial.
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Hubby72 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :)
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Anglu Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Is there any possibillity to convert V4 clothes to G8?
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
It might be technically possible but it's going to be lengthy.

There is presently no Victoria 4 clone for Genesis 8 Female.  There's one you can buy in the store for Genesis 3 Female.

So what you would have to do is to follow this tutorial, but BEFORE that you would have to:

1. Load G3
2. Load clothing, do not conform, do not autofit
3. In the Scene Tab, select clothing, hit the tiny button and rigging--convert to weight mapping
4. Choose General Weight
5. Start Transfer Utility
6. Set G3 as source, clothing as target, Set the V4 clone from the dropdown on the left side
7. Check "merge hierarchies" under "weight maps"
8. Check "Reverse source shape from target"
9.  Accept
10.  It should now at least sort of fit G3
11.  Now convert from G3 to G8 by following the G3 to G8 tutorial.


Shoes with heels are still pretty hopeless.  V4 to G3 to G8 is three different foot positions you're trying to warp the geometry through.  But if you want to try that you'd need to do this, then follow the G3 to G8 tutorial shoe section:

A Reminder on Autofitting Shoes to Genesis 2 or 3 by SickleYield
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Anglu Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much, I will try that!
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JoswanKodaigo Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2017
Thanks for the tutorial! I was in a bad headspace when I saw that shoes didn't autofit... again. You'd think they'd get the message from the last one. I bought the pro because so many clothes to come free with it. I was less than enthralled with the shoes that came with the V8.

And thanks for the Push tip. It fixed the upper shoe clipping so easily.

Now to test Supersuit for Genesis.
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
They have no incentive for shoes to autofit well.  They like selling new shoes.
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GP40X Featured By Owner Edited Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How about hair?  I auto fitted my Swam H.Lee hair and lost the bones for the dog ears.  I just followed your instructions and they work for hair also (At least SWAM's H.Lee hair)  I saved it as HLee G8 hair Fit.  Once I load it all the lovely bones are there.

Still having random fatal error crashes but just updated to the latest NVidia driver so we'll see.  At least with your help, I can avoid hair issues.  Thanks again for the tutorials and also thanks for the great products you produce for Daz Studio.  Now to start converting my high heel boot collection.
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
It should, hair is not different from clothes as far as the engine's concerned.
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MyLaLe Featured By Owner Edited Jun 17, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Thank you so much!:) (Smile) 
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LostBrave Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:wow: Thank you ...Thank you ....Thank you :tighthug:
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Edheldil3D Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017
Thank you very much!
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Midniyt Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Appreceate it a lot! :)
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anironbutterfly Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for this! That pose will be go right next to my G3F base figure! :hug:
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JohnKent42 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really useful, thanks
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:iconbutthurt12:
butthurt12 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017
Could you please make a tutorial to convert G3 poses to G8? There's no plugin for it by now
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
You can easily generate a g3 to g8 converter with this: www.sharecg.com/v/76667/browse…

Zev0 is advertising he will soon have one in the store that can do many at once.
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butthurt12 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2017
Thank you very much for the link! I figured out how to do stuff in it
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xyer0 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional General Artist
You, dear lady, are such a valuable asset to the Daz community! Thank you so much for not only solving problems but providing intelligible instructions for the less gifted.
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rhi Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
OH, found it.  :-) 
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rhi Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
This is very cool, however, under the preferred base, I do not have Genesis 8 listed, not sure why ... any ideas?
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
You have to have Genesis 8 installed, and you have to have the Smart Content/Content Management System active.
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sandrayln Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2017
If you're like me and ignore the smart content/CMS stuff 99% of the time, what this means is that you need to start DS, go to the Smart Content panel, and login.  Then wait for it to update your smart content.  Assuming you had G8 loaded into your library already, it should pull her into that preferred base section once it's done.
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Colinscrod Featured By Owner Edited Jun 16, 2017
I'd have like the ability to load G3 characters onto G8; clothing I have no problem with.  Of course, I haven't tried to load G8 clothing onto G3.
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Textures already work. Morphs will require copying as with any two generations, and a lot won't work.
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Singular3D Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, but I really didn't find any need for G8 so far. Most of it can be done with G3 as well.
Nevertheless thanks for providing such helpful information.
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artdude41 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Couldnt agree with you more , seems like yet another cash grab from daz , but anyway...
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:iconsimonjm:
SimonJM Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017
Nice one - I'll come back and read and watch in full later, and thank you! :)
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Linwelly Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, you'r fast! Thanks a lot this will be useful ( as all yout tuts) Meow :3 
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Kervala Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks a lot for the pose :hug: And the whole tutorial of course :love:
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Darshag Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017
Wow!. Thanks for the tutorial. My main gripe was with the footwear distortion. :thumbsup:
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Skiriki Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Great! Thanks! I'm sure I will be referring back to this page quite a lot in days to come! :D
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vwrangler Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you kindly, ma'am!

Worked perfectly on the Bella Donna dress, which is long, slim profile, and floor length. Worked perfectly on the Daz Abigail Outfit shoes for G3F.

DM's Lady Classic Pumps from Rendo, on the other hand ... nothing I could do would get those to work. I think there's something odd about how they're textured, because an inside layer that doesn't even show up as a surface was breaking through the outside layer when they were conformed in the last step. Even so, it's nice to know that a lot of stuff will be able to work without much fuss.
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Nathanomir Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for this tutorial. I haven't decided to take the plunge, or even experiment with V8, and probably won't until sculpting systems become available (here's hoping for Shape Shift 4). At least, your process is a positive step in the right direction.

How can they call V8 backwards compatible when she doesn't support V4 clothing at all, and you have to develop something so Byzantine just to get G3F clothing to fit her?
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pygfaust Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have used V4 clothing which is Autofitted to a G3 figure in the scene, and then fitted it to a G8 figure with no problem!
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Nathanomir Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, you used a G3 as a clone. Good thinking.
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pygfaust Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
G3 as an intermediary, and you need Autofit for V4 to G3 installed.  Figured it was worth a try.
Unfortunately, my solution does not work for shoes (Autofit never does), so please follow  SickleYield's tutorial for those.
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Nothing supports V4 clothing but V4, or ever has. Its rig is antiquated and it is overly difficult to do so.

They're saying that because Genesis 8 comes with more clones for AutoFit (G1, G2 and G3). You can use Autofit instead of this tutorial and get one-step clothing fit, it just won't keep custom bones or work with heels like this does. It also supports G3 UVs (G3 did not support G2 UVs).
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pygfaust Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have used V4 clothing which is Autofitted to a G3 figure in the scene, and then fitted it to a G8 figure with no problem!
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2OT Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for this Tutorial and the Pose.
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AOGRAI Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Really excellent tutorial and info on the transfer rigging procedure... thanks for the download too.
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robandodeveras Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I must be missing something, I can't find the Genesis 3 pose for Genesis 8 when I click on poses...
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
You have to unzip it to that folder. It's not in a folder structure.
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robandodeveras Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gotcha. Thank you
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SammyScuffles Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017
I feel like they skipped some numbers on "Genesis" there. I mean, I get that Victoria is up to 8, but isn't this Genesis 4 really?
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Yep. They changed it to 8 early because the generation number mismatch between Genesis and Victoria was confusing to newcomers.
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SammyScuffles Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017
But now they're confusing poor little me! Question, how well do poses for G3F work with the new figure?
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SickleYield Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Badly, but you can convert them easily with the "make a custom script" option of this:

www.sharecg.com/v/76667/browse…


This is what I've been doing.
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SammyScuffles Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2017
Thanks!
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